In episode 25 of The Product Design Podcast, Seth Coelen interviews Brian Lin, Director of Product Design at Lunchbox, where he oversees product design and product research teams. Brian has been in the game for over twenty years and has witnessed the evolution of product design firsthand. This episode brings tons of advice straight from a hiring manager's perspective, which will help you regardless of what level you are at in your product design career path. During our interview with Brain you will learn: -How Brian got his start in design -Why process can't always be linear -How Brian feels about Bootcamps -Why design looks different from agency to big org -Hiring Manager's expectations for juniors versus seniors -How to level up -Brian's hot take on the surplus of juniors and the demand for seniors in the industry So happy to have you join us today! 00:00 Introduction 01:29 How Brian got started in design back before product design was a thing 06:20 The process won't save you 10:17 How Brian feels about Bootcamps 15:36 Why design looks different from agency to big org 20:07 The things Brian did right early on in his career 25:31 The things he wishes he would have done differently 32:42 A Hiring Manager's perspective: expectations for a junior level designer versus a senior level designer 39:43 How the role changes when a junior levels up 43:43 How to level up in your career 50:26 Brian's hot take on the surplus of juniors and the demand for seniors in the industry Thanks for watching! If you enjoyed this video please like and subscribe so we can keep making content for you good people! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3aRBoqF6mAD1PnQwj86dX Don't forget to read our blog and sign up for reminders when new episodes will be available! https://uxcabin.com/podcast-database/brian-lin-when-a-bootcamp-doesnt-lead-to-a-job Make sure to follow Brian after the podcast to stay on top of what he is up to! Twitter: https://twitter.com/brianisme LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/brianisme Where to find UX Cabin: Twitter: https://twitter.com/uxcabin Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/uxcabin/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/uxcabin TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@uxcabin?lang=en YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/UXCabin dribble: https://dribbble.com/uxcabin Website: https://uxcabin.com